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Edelman, Martin J.

https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3752-0726

Mayo Clinic

Fox Chase Cancer Center

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Abstract 1068: Combining circulating tumor cells and cancer associated macrophage-like cells enhances risk stratification models in pan-cancer metastatic disease
Lin, Steven H., Cristofanilli, Massimo, Reduzzi, Carolina, Chumsri, Saranya , Tsai, Susan, Aldakkak, Mohammed , Tang, Cha-Mei, Adams, Daniel L. , Lin, Steven H. , Cristofanilli, Massimo , Reduzzi, Carolina , Edelman, Martin J. , Bergan, Raymond C. , Ho, Thai H.

Cancer Research | April 3, 2026 | Volume: 86 | Issue: 7_Supplement | Pages: 1068-1068

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Abstract Background: In metastatic cancer, Circulating Tumor cells (CTCs) are established prognostic indictors of patients (pts) less likely to respond to new lines of systemic therapy, with poor clinical outcomes, such as shorter progression free survival (PFS) and overall survival (OS). However, CTCs are typically found in specific malignancies (breast, prostate & colon), often in <20% of pts with metastatic disease, and pts without CTCs may also rapidly progress. Recently, an inflammatory pro-tumorigenic macrophage emanating from tumor stroma (i.e. Cancer associated macrophage-like cell [CAML]) was found in >90% of metastatic cancer pts, and whose phagocytic engorgement appears to correlate with poor outcomes, independent of CTCs. As CTCs and CAMLs are isolated in conjunction from a single blood sample, and both are prognostic for outcomes, we evaluated their utilization prior to induction of new systemic therapy in 6 types of metastatic cancer to model pt risk stratification based on 2 year outcomes. Methods: A prospective 2 year blind multi-institutional study was undertaken to model CTCs and CAMLs in prognosticating outcomes prior to induction of a new line of systemic therapy (n=233) in metastatic: Breast (n=60), Prostate (n=40), Pancreas (n=25), Colon (n=28), Renal Cell Carcinoma (RCC) (n=39), and Lung (n=40). Blood was filtered by CellSieveTM filters with subtypes of CTCs & hyper-enlarged CAMLs (≥100µm) enumerated. A machine learning algorithm was trained on this initial data set to develop predictive models which could stratify pt populations by risk for likelihood of PFS & OS over 2 years, including known clinical variables. Results: CTCs were absent in 80% (n=185/233) of pts, and their absence was prognostic for better PFS (HR=1.6, p=0.046), but not OS (HR=1.3, p=0.2045). In parallel, enlarged CAMLs (≥100µm) were found in 28% (n=51/185) of pts without CTCs, and were also prognostic for worse PFS (HR=2.0, p=0.0082) and OS (HR=1.9, p=0.0412). Specifically, CTCs were found in 55% (n=33) breast, 20% (n=8) prostate, 12% (n=3) pancreas, 11% (n=3) colon, 0% (n=0) RCC, and 0% (n=0) lung pts. Enlarged CAMLs were found in 45% (n=27) breast, 20% (n=8) prostate, 44% (n=11) pancreas, 44% (n=17) colon, 18% (n=7) RCC and 20% (n=8) lung pts. Overall, models indicated that ≥1 CTC (n=47) had mPFS=3.9 & mOS=14.9, while pts with 0 CTCs and ≥100µm CAMLs (n=51) had a mPFS=6.9 & mOS=13.8, and pts with 0 CTCs and <100µm CAMLs (n=134) had a mPFS=10.7 & mOS>24 months. Conclusions: These initial models confirm that both CTCs and enlarged CAMLs are prognostic indicators of worse PFS & OS. The simultaneous quantification both CTCs and CAMLs allows for more accurate pan-cancer risk stratification in an array of cancer pt populations. Additional clinical variables incorporated into the models may allow better risk subtyping and possibly forecast optimal treatment regimens. Citation Format: Daniel L. Adams, Steven H. Lin, Massimo Cristofanilli, Carolina Reduzzi, Saranya Chumsri, Martin J. Edelman, Susan Tsai, Raymond C. Bergan, Mohammed Aldakkak, Thai H. Ho, Cha-Mei Tang. Combining circulating tumor cells and cancer associated macrophage-like cells enhances risk stratification models in pan-cancer metastatic disease [abstract]. In: Proceedings of the American Association for Cancer Research Annual Meeting 2026; Part 1 (Regular Abstracts); 2026 Apr 17-22; San Diego, CA. Philadelphia (PA): AACR; Cancer Res 2026;86(7 Suppl):Abstract nr 1068.
Polyploid circulating stromal cells in blood to identify invasive solid tumors and to prognosticate for highly aggressive cancer subtypes.
Edelman, Martin Joseph, Iwase, Toshiaki, Tsai, Susan, Aldakkak, Mohammed , Aft, Rebecca , Kim, Amy K. , Loeb, David M. , Gaston, Sandra M. , Tsai, Susan , Adams, Daniel L. , Lin, Steven H. , Pass, Harvey I. , Edelman, Martin J. , Iwase, Toshiaki , Ueno, Naoto Tada , Bergan, Raymond C. , Watson, Mark A. , Chikamatsu, Kazuaki , Hayashi, Masanori , Pinto, Navin , Ho, Thai H. , Punnen, Sanoj , Marks, Jeffrey R.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | June 14, 2024 | Volume: 42 | Issue: 16_suppl | Pages: 3053-3053

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3053 Background: Recently, early studies have identified circulating stromal cells (CStCs), i.e. Cancer Associated Macrophage-Like cells (CAMLs), in patients (pts) with newly diagnosed invasive cancers, which are phagocytic myeloid immune cells emanating from primary tumors. However, no study has evaluated CAMLs as a pan solid tumor screening tool nor their clinical impact on pt outcomes. We analyzed the blood of untreated newly diagnosed cancer pts (n=441), or in non-malignant conditions (i.e. pancreatic cysts, n=77), or healthy controls (n=100). We found that CAMLs are prevalent (82%) in cancer pt blood, absent in healthy controls (0%) and less common in non-malignant conditions (36%), with correlations to worse clinical outcomes. Methods: Anonymized peripheral blood was taken from n=441 pts before or after confirmation of invasive malignancy [stage I (n=105), stage II (n=125), stage III (n=114), stage IV (n=97) with pathologically confirmed lung (n=84), pancreas (n=61), breast (n=73), prostate (n=65), esophageal (n=34), Renal Cell (n=29), Sarcoma (n=27), or Other (n=68). In addition, anonymized blood was taken from pts with untreated non-malignant conditions including benign breast masses (n=19), Lupus (n=11), liver Cirrhosis (n=6), rising PSA (n=24), or other benign mass (n=17); and from healthy control volunteers (n=100). CAMLs were isolated by CellSieve microfiltration, defined as enlarged polyploid cells with cytokeratin+ and/or CD45/CD14+. Pts were monitored for 0-8 years (median=2.6) for progression free survival (PFS) and overall survival (OS). Results: CAMLs were found in 82% of all cancer pts averaging 5.4 CAMLs, specifically, in 66% of Stage I, 85% Stage II, 84% Stage III, and 92% Stage IV. No CAMLs were found in any healthy controls, but were in 36% of non-malignant pts. CAML sensitivity in cancer vs healthy was 82% (CI95% 78-85%), specificity=100% (CI95% 96-100%), PPV=100% (CI95% 99-100%), NPV=55% (CI95% 50-60%). CAML sensitivity in cancer vs benign was 82% (CI95% 78-85%), specificity=64% (CI95% 32-44%), PPV=93% (CI95% 90-95%), NPV=38% (CI95% 32-44%). CAML presence was significantly associated with worse PFS (HR=2.0, 95%CI 1.4-2.9, p<0.0001) & OS (HR=2.2, 95%CI 1.4-3.3, p=0.0004), with engorged phagocytic CAMLs (>50um), highly significant for worse PFS (HR=3.3, 95%CI 2.5-4.5, p<0.0001) & OS (HR=3.0, 95%CI 2.1-4.3, p<0.0001). Further, in benign pts positive for CAMLs, 2 pts were in situ, 16 had histologies with increased cancer risk (i.e. IPMN, atypical hyperplasia), and 5 pts died within 3 years. Conclusions: CAMLs appear to be a highly sensitive blood based biomarker that can identify invasive carcinoma in all stages of cancer regardless of subtype, but are not found in healthy controls & rare in non-malignant conditions. Further, enlarged phagocytic CAMLs appeared to correlate with shorter PFS and OS prior to treatment induction.
Phase 1 trial of navitoclax and sorafenib in patients with refractory solid tumors with a hepatocellular carcinoma expansion cohort.
Emiloju, Oluwadunni Eunice, Yin, Jun , Koubek, Emily J. , Lou, Yanyan , Seetharam, ­Mahesh , Edelman, Martin Joseph, Jiang, Yixing , Posey, James , Davis, S. Lindsey , Roberts, Lewis R. , Takebe, Naoko , Hendrickson, Andrea E. Wahner , Costello, Brian A. , Roberts, Lewis R , Reid, Joel M. , Borad, Mitesh J. , Edelman, Martin J. , Kaseb, Ahmed O , Gores, Gregory J. , Kaufmann, Scott H. , Hubbard, Joleen M.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | January 22, 2024 | Volume: 42 | Issue: 3_suppl | Pages: 507-507

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507 Background: Navitoclax (ABT-263) is an oral Bcl-2 homology-3 mimetic that binds with high affinity to pro-survival Bcl-2 proteins, resulting in apoptosis. Sorafenib, an oral multi kinase inhibitor inhibits tumor angiogenesis and also promotes apoptosis. The efficacy of either agent alone is limited; however, preclinical studies demonstrate synergy with the combination of navitoclax and sorafenib. Methods: In this phase 1 pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic study (NCT01364051), we evaluated the combination of navitoclax and sorafenib in a dose escalation cohort of patients with refractory solid tumors, with an expansion cohort in hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC). The study agents were provided by the Cancer Therapy Evaluation Program at National Cancer Institute under CRADA. Navitoclax and sorafenib were administered continuously on days 1 through 21 of 21-day cycles. The maximum tolerated dose (MTD) was determined using the continual reassessment method. Results: Ten patients were enrolled in the dose escalation cohort and 15 patients with HCC were enrolled in the expansion cohort. Two dose levels were tested, dose level 1 (navitoclax 150 mg daily plus sorafenib 400 mg twice daily) and dose level 2 (navitoclax 200 mg daily plus sorafenib 400 mg twice daily). At dose level 1, one dose limiting toxicity (DLT) [grade 3 aspartate aminotransferase elevation] was observed among 6 patients treated at this dose level. In a cohort of 3 patients treated at dose level 2, two DLTs were observed (grade 3 hypertension, and grade 3 rash), hence dose level 1 was identified as the MTD. Among all patients, the most common grade 3 toxicity was thrombocytopenia (5 patients, 20%): there were no grade 4 or 5 toxicities (Table). Patients received a median of 2 cycles (range 1-36 cycles) and all patients were off study treatment at data cut off. Six patients in the expansion cohort had stable disease, 5 had progressive disease and 4 with unavailable data. There were no partial or complete responses. Drug-drug interaction between navitoclax and sorafenib was not observed. The combination of navitoclax and sorafenib did not increase induction of apoptosis compared with navitoclax alone. Conclusions: Navitoclax plus sorafenib resulted in manageable, but not ideal toxicities for continuous oral administration which precluded dose escalation. The lack of clinical benefit in the HCC expansion cohort does not support further development of this combination for the treatment of advanced HCC. Clinical trial information: NCT01364051 . [Table: see text]
Small Cell Lung Cancer, Version 2.2022, NCCN Clinical Practice Guidelines in Oncology
Ganti, Apar Kishor , Bassetti, M. , Blakely, Collin M. , Chiang, Anne C. , D’Amico, Thomas A., D’Avella, Christopher , Dowlati, Afshin , Downey, Robert J. , Florsheim, Charles, Grecula, J.C., Hann, Christine L. , Iams, Wade T. , Iyengar, Puneeth , Khalil, Maya, Koczywas, Marianna , Merritt, Robert E. , Mohindra, Nisha , Molina, Julian R. , Moran, César A. , Qin, Angel , Rusthoven, Chad G. , Santana-Dávila, Rafael , Shafique, Michael , Gregory, Kristina M., Hughes, Miranda, Molina, Julian, Ganti, Apar K , Loo, Billy W. , Edelman, Martin J. , Gold, Kathryn Ann , Goldman, Jonathan W. , Kelly, Karen , Pokharel, Saraswati , Puri, Sonam , Sands, Jacob , Waqar, Saiama N

Journal of the National Comprehensive Cancer Network | December 13, 2021 | Volume: 19 | Issue: 12 | Pages: 1441-1464

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The NCCN Clinical Practice Guidelines in Oncology (NCCN Guidelines) for Small Cell Lung Cancer (SCLC) provide recommended management for patients with SCLC, including diagnosis, primary treatment, surveillance for relapse, and subsequent treatment. This selection for the journal focuses on metastatic (known as extensive-stage) SCLC, which is more common than limited-stage SCLC. Systemic therapy alone can palliate symptoms and prolong survival in most patients with extensive-stage disease. Smoking cessation counseling and intervention should be strongly promoted in patients with SCLC and other high-grade neuroendocrine carcinomas. The “Summary of the Guidelines Updates” section in the SCLC algorithm outlines the most recent revisions for the 2022 update, which are described in greater detail in this revised Discussion text.
Hyper engorged cancer associated macrophage-like cells in circulation predict for multi-organ metastatic disease in solid tumors.
Gironda, Daniel J. , Alpaugh, R. Katherine , Chumsri, Saranya , Lapidus, Rena G. , Williams, William L., Danila, Daniel C. , Chuang, Tuan L., Tang, Cha‐Mei , Bergan, Raymond C. , Lin, Steven H. , Cristofanilli, Massimo , Williams, William, Lacher, Markus Daniel , Ho, Thai H. , Edelman, Martin J. , Adams, Daniel L.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | June 2, 2021 | Volume: 39 | Issue: 15_suppl | Pages: 3039-3039

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3039 Background: Patients with multiple organ metastases have poorer prognoses than those with a single organ metastasis, are frequently associated with drug resistance, and have higher tumor burden. Engorged (≥50um) Cancer Associated Macrophage-Like Cells (CAMLs) are a circulating stromal cell subtype detected in the blood of patients with solid tumors at high risk for recurrence or progression. While numerous studies have shown that ≥50um CAMLs predict poor clinical outcomes, meta-analysis of these studies have also suggested that hyper engorged CAMLs ≥100um (heCAMLs) may be associated with multifocal metastatic disease and even worse outcomes. In this prospective study, we evaluated the presence of heCAMLs in patients with metastatic disease and demonstrated a strong relationship with multi organ spread, which also correlated with shorter Progression Free Survival (PFS) and Overall Survival (OS). Methods: We prospectively recruited 151 patients with metastatic (m) mbreast (n = 58), mlung (n = 34), mprostate (n = 39), and mrenal (n = 20) cancers. Peripheral blood was collected prior to the induction of new treatment for metastatic cancer. Cells were isolated following standard CellSieve techniques, then imaged and measured in ZenBlue. Multi organ metastasis was defined as spread to ≥2 distant organ sites, or any spread to the brain. Single factor ANOVA was conducted to compare heCAML presence in multi organ metastatic patients versus patients with single organ site metastasis. Univariate and multivariate analysis was run to evaluate for PFS and OS against heCAMLs, and all known clinical parameters. Results: 150 viable samples (excluding 1 failed sample) were obtained. Multi organ metastases were present in 55% (n = 83/150) of patients. heCAMLs were found in 59% (n = 49/83) of the multi organ metastatic population, but only in 16% (n = 11/67) of the single site metastatic cohort (p < 0.001). heCAML presence appeared to differentiate multi organ vs single organ metastases in mbreast (85% vs. 52%, p = 0.006), mlung (71% vs. 26%, p = 0.025), mprostate (75% vs. 37%, p = 0.029), and mRCC (88% vs. 36%, p = 0.025). Further, in all n = 150 patients, heCAML presence predicted a significantly shorter median PFS of 4.5 versus 7.2 months, 24 month PFS (HR = 1.67, 95%CI = 1.13-2.45, p = 0.013), and significantly shorter median OS of 13.1 versus 20.4 months, 24 month OS (HR = 2.05, 95%CI = 1.24-3.39, p = 0.008). Conclusions: We examined a non-invasive prognostic blood based assay to determine its relationship to multi organ metastatic spread as well as its prognostic value in several solid cancers. These results showed patients with heCAMLs had higher rates of multi organ metastases, and appear to predict for shorter PFS and OS. Studies of larger cohorts are needed for prospective validation of these initial findings.
Circulating stromal cells as a potential blood-based biomarker for screening invasive solid tumors.
Chumsri, Saranya , Lapidus, Rena G. , Aft, Rebecca , Pillai, Sreeraj G. , Kim, Amy K. , Loeb, David M. , Alpaugh, R. Katherine , Tang, Cha‐Mei , Adams, Daniel L. , Lin, Steven H. , Pass, Harvey I. , Edelman, Martin J. , Bergan, Raymond C. , Tsai, Susan , Watson, Mark A. , Chikamatsu, Kazuaki , Hayashi, Masanori , Pinto, Navin , Ho, Thai H. , Marks, Jeffrey R.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | May 25, 2020 | Volume: 38 | Issue: 15_suppl | Pages: 3535-3535

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3535 Background: Peripheral blood allows for a simple non-invasive method for isolating various cancer associated circulating stromal cells (CStCs) which may predict for cancer presence. Cancer Associated Macrophage-Like cells (CAMLs), a specific CStC, are phagocytic myeloid cells that derive from an immunological response to cancer and emanate from primary tumors. Using a filtration platform we screened the peripheral blood of untreated newly diagnosed cancer patients (n = 308) for CAMLs. In parallel, we screened patients with newly diagnosed non-malignant diseases, i.e. lupus, benign cysts, etc. (n = 39), and healthy control samples (n = 76). We found that CAMLs are highly prevalent (87%) in the blood of cancer patients, but uncommon in non-malignant conditions (20%) & absent in healthy individuals (0%). Methods: Anonymized peripheral blood were taken from 308 cancer patients after confirmation of invasive malignancy [stage I (n = 76), stage II (n = 73), stage III (n = 72), stage IV (n = 65) and unstaged non-metastatic (n = 22)] with pathologically confirmed lung (n = 65), pancreas (n = 53), breast (n = 52), prostate (n = 40), esophageal (n = 30), renal cell (n = 18), hepatocellular (n = 15), neuroblastoma (n = 10), melanoma (n = 8), and other (n = 17). Further, anonymized blood was taken from patients with untreated non-malignant conditions including benign breast masses (n = 19), lupus (n = 11), liver cirrhosis (n = 5), benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) (n = 3), and viral infection (n = 1); or from healthy control volunteers (n = 76). CAMLs were isolated from whole peripheral blood by the CellSieve™ microfiltration technique and defined as enlarged, multinuclear cells with cytokeratin and/or CD45/CD14 positive. Results: CAMLs were found in 87% of all cancer patients regardless of stage, ~5.4 CAMLs/7.5mL blood. Specifically, CAMLs were found in 80% of Stage I, 90% Stage II, 89% Stage III, and 97% Stage IV patients. No CAMLs were found in any healthy controls, but were found in 26% of benign breast masses, 18% of lupus, 0% of BPH and 0% of cirrhosis. In total, CAML sensitivity in cancer vs healthy was 87% (CI95% 82-90%), specificity = 100% (CI95% 95-100%), PPV = 100% (CI95% 100%), NPV = 67% (CI95% 58-71%). CAML sensitivity in cancer vs benign was 87% (CI95% 82-90%), specificity = 80% (CI95% 64-91%), PPV = 97% (CI95% 95-98%), NPV = 43% (CI95% 35-51%). Conclusions: CAMLs, a Circulating Stromal Cell subtype, is a sensitive blood based biomarker found in all stages of cancer that is rare in non-malignant conditions and absent in healthy individuals.
Correlation of cancer-associated macrophage-like cells with systemic therapy and pathological stage in numerous malignancies.
Chumsri, Saranya , Charpentier, Monica S., Lapidus, Rena G. , Alpaugh, R. Katherine , Tang, Cha‐Mei , Adams, Daniel L. , Bergan, Raymond C. , Martin, Stuart S. , Cristofanilli, Massimo , Tsai, Susan , Edelman, Martin J.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | April 19, 2019 | Volume: 33 | Issue: 15_suppl | Pages: 11095-11095

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Phase 1 study of the folic acid (FA) and tubulysin B hydrazide (TubBH) small molecule drug conjugate (SMDC) EC1456 in patients (pts) with advanced cancers (CA).
Matei, Daniela, Sachdev, Jasgit C. , Klein, Patrick , Burgess, Shelly, Clark, Romnee, Ramanathan, Ramesh K., Harb, Wael A., Matei, Daniela, Edelman, Martin J. , Rao, Satish B. , Morris, Elizabeth A.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | March 7, 2019 | Volume: 33 | Issue: 15_suppl | Pages: 2551-2551

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A pooled analysis of individual patient data from National Clinical Trials Network clinical trials of concurrent chemoradiotherapy for limited‐stage small cell lung cancer in elderly patients versus younger patients
Stinchcombe, Thomas E. , Fan, Wen, Bogart, Jeff, Thomas, Charles R., Edelman, Martin J. , Horn, Leora , Cohen, Harvey Jay, Ganti, Apar Kishor , Pang, Herbert , Wang, Xiaofei , Schild, Steven E. , Ganti, Apar K , Vokes, Everett E. , Le, Quynh‐Thu , Komaki, Ritsuko

Cancer | October 21, 2018 | Volume: 125 | Issue: 3 | Pages: 382-390

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Background Platinum and etoposide with thoracic radiation followed by prophylactic cranial irradiation constitute the standard treatment for limited‐stage small cell lung cancer (LS‐SCLC). Many patients with LS‐SCLC are elderly with comorbidities. Methods Individual patient data were collected from 11 phase 2 or 3 trials for LS‐SCLC conducted by the National Clinical Trials Network and activated from 1990 to 2010. The primary endpoint was overall survival (OS); the secondary endpoints were progression‐free survival (PFS), the rate of severe adverse events, and off‐treatment reasons. The outcomes were compared for patients 70 years old or older (elderly patients) and patients younger than 70 years (younger patients). Results Individual patient data from 1049 younger patients (81%) and 254 elderly patients (19%) were analyzed. In the multivariate model, elderly patients, in comparison with younger patients, had worse OS (hazard ratio [HR], 1.38; 95% confidence interval [CI], 1.18‐1.63; median OS for elderly patients, 17.8 months; OS for younger patients, 23.5 months) and worse PFS (HR, 1.19; 95% CI, 1.03‐1.39; median PFS for elderly patients, 10.6 months; median PFS for younger patients, 12.3 months). Elderly patients, in comparison with younger patients, experienced more grade 5 adverse events (8% vs 3%; P < .01) and more grade 3 or higher dyspnea (11% vs 7%; P = .03) but less grade 3 or higher esophagitis/dysphagia (14% vs 19%; P = .04) and less grade 3 or higher vomiting (11% vs 17%; P = .01). Elderly patients completed treatment less often, discontinued treatment because of adverse events and patient refusal more frequently, and died during treatment more frequently. Conclusions Elderly patients with LS‐SCLC have worse PFS and OS and more difficulty in tolerating therapy. Future trials should incorporate assessments of elderly patients, novel monitoring of adverse events, and more tolerable radiation and systemic therapies.
Combining circulating tumor cells and circulating cancer associated macrophage-like cells for accurately predicting responsiveness of new line therapies in late stage cancers.
Alpaugh, R. Katherine , Martin, Stuart S. , Lapidus, Rena G. , Chumsri, Saranya , Tang, Cha‐Mei , Adams, Daniel L. , Bergan, Raymond C. , Edelman, Martin J. , Cristofanilli, Massimo , Lin, Steven H.

Journal of Clinical Oncology | September 5, 2018 | Volume: 36 | Issue: 15_suppl | Pages: 12032-12032

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